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 Risk management, a proper science that would //never// even //think// about suggesting something as ridiculous as this, is about minimizing risks at every stage of the process - at the human level, sure, but also at the mechanical level. That's why 50% of the resources of product design go into researching how humans could possibly fuck up using the product, and then minimizing the ways in which it can happen in the first place or how to minimize the potential damage. Risk management, a proper science that would //never// even //think// about suggesting something as ridiculous as this, is about minimizing risks at every stage of the process - at the human level, sure, but also at the mechanical level. That's why 50% of the resources of product design go into researching how humans could possibly fuck up using the product, and then minimizing the ways in which it can happen in the first place or how to minimize the potential damage.
  
-And I haven'even talked about the things that are //outside// of your control. Supply chain attacks are one such thingbut other devices on your network are a thing as well. Do you trust your family to know what they're doing? Your partner? Your colleagues at work? Other students at school? Do you trust that the companies who write the software you are using have proper cybersecurity measures in place themselves? There is an obscene amount of attack vectors in the digital realm beyond the "download an executable and run it". +And that still doesn’cover risks beyond your control. Supply chain attacks, insecure devices on your network, careless family members, colleagues, or even vendors whose own security might be weak—all are threats you cannot fix with judgment alone. The digital landscape has countless entry points far beyond simply “not downloading shady files", and treating common sense as the primary defense ignores the true scale of the problem.
  
 ===== 2. What not to rely on: Windows Defender? ===== ===== 2. What not to rely on: Windows Defender? =====
-There is a pervasive myth that common sense plus Windows Defender are enough to keep you safe. Or that Windows Defender is as safe or safer than other products on the market. Now obviously, "safe" isn't a binary. It's not that you are either "safe" or "not safe", the only truth here is that different combinations of precautions lead to different levels of //risk//. But still, the idea is that Common Sense plus Windows Defender is enough for the risk to be "low enough" for these people. +There is a pervasive myth that common sense plus Windows Defender are enough to keep you safe. Or that Windows Defender is as safe or safer than other products on the market. Obviously, "safe" isn't a binary. It's not that you are either "safe" or "not safe", the only truth here is that different combinations of precautions lead to different levels of //risk//. But still, the idea is that Common Sense plus Windows Defender is enough for the risk to be "low enough" for these people.
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-And... I don't know, maybe? Funnily enough, despite arguing against it, that particular combination //is// what I rely on((And even that only because I can't disable Defender without some drama from the operating system.)). How much risk is acceptable risk for you? Either way, the reason I don't like that claim is because Common Sense is terrible advice on its own and, for the longest time, Windows Defender was terrible advice as well. +
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-The truth is that the people who say "Common Sense + Defender" are the same people who, before Windows Defender was a thing, just said "Common Sense". So, for us this is about the merits of Defender itself, and here we need a bit of a reality check:+
  
-For the longest time, Defender was a //terrible// cybersecurity productThink about it - the easiest and cheapest way to do antimalware is to keep a list of files you know are malware. If you cannot do that, you have failed as an antimalware product. And... Defender was not able to do that. The most common and most infamous pieces of malware are signatures that absolutely //everyone// should have. A few years agoin tests against even the most well known and infamous pieces of malware, Windows Defender was not able to pick up most of theseIt's a test that every malware security product should ace 100% by default, before you're even considered for further examinationSure, knowing recent samples and reacting quickly to malware that appeared just a few hours or even days ago is a different beast... but having signatures for malware older than 5 years that was so popular it even made international news headlines... that's the least we should be able to expect.+Maybe. In fact, that’s the setup I personally rely onBut the problem is that common sense is empty advice and, for much of its history, Windows Defender was genuinely terribleThe people who say “Common Sense + Defender” today are the same people who once said “just common sense.” The only real shift is that now we’re debating Defender itself.
  
-In those old testsWindows Defender would score around 40% to 60% detection rates (depending on the pool of samples chosen)which was already way behind Bitdefender and Kaspersky'98% at the timeIt was in those times that people already threw around the claim that Windows Defender is perfectly fine and that there is no reason to buy different one. The people who said that had no clue in the slightest on what they were talking about. Again: profession of risk management, profession of cybersecurity - both are serious business, don't sully them with your ignorance.+For years, Defender was a failure. The most basic job of antivirus is keeping a signature list of known malware. Any serious product should ace this by default. Defender didn’t. It consistently missed well-known, widely publicized malware, including samples that were years old. Tests showed detection rates around 40%-60%, while products like Kaspersky or Bitdefender hit 98%. Despite thatpeople insisted Defender was “good enough", indicative of complete lack of understanding of risk management or cybersecurity.
  
-One annoying part about this now is that Defender has actually been catching up over the years. It now passes the well known and infamous malware test like any other respectable productand even its general detection rate is beginning to get to where other products are and, frankly, should be. 95% I think? There or thereaboutsThe annoying thing about this is that the people are still thinking in their wrong and simplistic ideas of how the world works. The started out being utterly wrong, but over time the facts have begun to shift into aligning with some of what they say. So, now their wrong calculation just happens to spit out the right result, but they're still fundamentally wrong.+Now, Defender has improved. It finally catches the obvious malware, its detection rates have climbed to around 95%, and it’s become a passable baseline productIronically, this means that people who were wrong for years are now accidentally right, but for the wrong reasons. Their logic hasn’t improved - the facts just shifted closer to their narrative.
  
-The reality is that Defender, despite having caught up as a cheap antimalware product that has a register of signatures, doesn't have much elseThe "scan" you can do with defender is still mostly a signature lookup//not// static analysis. There is no sandboxing and barely any behavioral detection. There is some anti-ransomware with protected folders, which may or may not workBeyond thatthere are - to this day((August 28, 2025)) - massive, gaping security holes that you wouldn't believe until shown: A single shell command can set the entire PC as a scanning exception for Defender, a single shell command can just disable the Defender product as a whole orif you want to be sneaky, you can just delete the Windows Defender definitions (the files that contain the signatures and other metrics it uses to detect malicious files) and render it utterly useless that way. Want more? Registry changes, Group Policy edits, the ways to defeat Windows Defender are so artistic they just do it for sport at this pointIt does take a bit of sophistication and I'm sure Microsoft is working hard to fix those holes, so they'll closed any day now, but those things are out there.+Even so, Defender still has major shortcomingsIts scanning is largely signature-basedwith minimal static analysis and weak behavioral detection. There’s some anti-ransomware with protected folders, but reliability is questionableWorseit has glaring design flaws: A single shell command can disable it completely, delete its signature definition files, or set the whole PC as an exception. Registry tweaks and group policy edits can bypass it in seconds. These are not obscure attacks - they’re widely known in the cybersecurity community, and in some circles defeating Defender is treated like a sport. Microsoft is patching, but the holes remain.
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