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 **Is the Ship of Theseus still the same ship?**\\
 Yes.\\
-Unless you believe that you in your mother's womb, you when you were born, you when your were a toddler, 10 years, 20 years or when you will be 90 years old or even DEAD - if you believe that those are all different humans, THEN it's not the same ship.\\
+Unless you believe that you in your mother's womb, you when you were born, you when your were a toddler, 10 years, 20 years or when you will be 90 years old or even DEAD - if you believe that those are all different humans, THEN it's not the same ship.((ACTUALLY, [[https://www.tumblr.com/evilwizard/692226578379358208/like-90-of-all-riddles-only-work-because-we-dont?source=share/ |it’s tribberly is intact but it’s quonk is gone]] - PLCG))\\
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 **What about the other ship?**\\
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+If you think about it then you literally are just a particularly dense part of the atomic cloud we call reality, with no “real” body to speak of.
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+~Me while discussing this page with [[PiousLittleChristianGirl]].
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 As with most things, the issue over Ship of Theseus is mostly a //[[words]]// problem. My arm is the same arm I was born with as far as I am concerned, the question over whether it being of a different physical makeup makes it a different arm is so incredibly far removed from anything resembling a meaningful or reality-based conversation that it is absolutely pointless to talk about.
-If one day you found out that you were not the son of your mother but were indeed artificially bred in an incubator - would that make you a different human? Surely you would feel like you were different from what you //thought// you were but essentially you are still the same human being and retain all of the qualities you previously had, just with a different context than what you had originally presumed to be true. This is the core of the problem - what do you even //mean// by "being the same thing"? People attribute different things to "being a human". For one a new human might start and end where for someone else there have already been three different humans - not because there have actually been different humans, but because their perception of what makes a human a human is different. //REALITY// only knows the presence or absence of atoms, things like "being" or "continuing to be" and "ceasing to be" are ridiculed on this level. Down here, the only thing that "is" is math.(([[https://youtu.be/qD6bPNZRRbQ?t=731|YouTube: CGP Grey - The Simple Secret of Runway Digits]] "Okay look, 'whirl around' and 'spin' don't mean what you think, down here, because in the land of quantum words mean nothing, there is only math."))
+If one day you found out that you were not the son of your mother but were indeed artificially bred in an incubator - would that make you a different human? Surely you would feel like you were different from what you //thought// you were but essentially you are still the same human being and retain all of the qualities you previously had, just with a different context than what you had originally presumed to be true. This is the core of the problem - "being" a human is a **thought** in monkey brains. People attribute different things to "being a human". For one a new human might start and end where for someone else there have already been three different humans - not because there have actually been different humans, but because their perception of what makes a human a human is different. //REALITY// only knows the presence or absence of atoms, things like "being" or "continuing to be" and "ceasing to be" are ridiculed on this level. Down here, the only thing that "is" is math.(([[https://youtu.be/qD6bPNZRRbQ?t=731|YouTube: CGP Grey - The Simple Secret of Runway Digits]] "Okay look, 'whirl around' and 'spin' don't mean what you think, down here, because in the land of quantum words mean nothing, there is only math."))