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-So what is this? Me caring about artists? I mean, yeah, I don't like Spotify and I'll take any argument I can get. I genuinely believe that Spotify's pro rata payout model is predatory and fully in line with how corporate likes to monopolize industries.\\
+So what is this? Me caring about artists? I mean, yeah, I don't like Spotify and I'll take any argument I can get. I genuinely believe that Spotify's pro rata payout model is predatory and fully in line with how corporate likes to monopolize industries. But, even if it was changed to a fair(er) model I would still not like Spotify, at all. How come? Well, It comes down to //catalogue// and //paying for music//.
-But, even if it was changed to a fair(er) model I would still not like Spotify, at all. It comes down to //catalogue// and //paying for music//.
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-Spotify, of course, doesn't give you that option because //it// is obviously way above piracy and doesn't skirt around paying artists at all. Every piece of audio uploaded must be linked back to someone's bank account because all music on Spotify is ultimately a //business//. This makes the platform inherently exclusionary towards music not composed with the express intent of licensing your music, which probably makes up about 90% of all music ever composed((How do I get to this number? Well, let's take every mainstream song. Mainstream songs are 1 (one) licensed song and then several dozen fan or community remixes. None of these are licensed. Many mainstream songs will have several instrument covers by private people playing the song themselves and uploading it. But the real music treasure trove lies in the non-mainstream: This is composed mostly of fan and community works that are passion projects. In fact, just by how many of us are not full time composers or singers, this makes us several billions of people who could create and then upload music passion projects. Incidentally, these also typically happen to be the best music out there, but that's a [[value judgement]]. Additionally, a lot of music is created in a contractual context but the artists or their customers never bother to license.))((This is particularly prevalent for video game soundtracks, wherein only the big blockbuster high-budget triple AAA titles have their music licensed (most of which then also have countless remixes again). Everything else in terms of video game music is then archived to, of course, YouTube, where audiences of millions can listen to the soundtrack of every game ever created, assuming someone uploaded it. In fact, I am one of those uploaders myself, which is possible on YouTube but a total no-go on Spotify. Hell, I even have the freedom to create custom mixes of the video game music I upload, because I have individual stems and can use them to create new mixes. This freedom is not given on Spotify, making it hostile to anything not expressly dedicated towards making money.)). This music then is //missing// from your platform, which means that if you want to listen to that music anyway, you're going to have to pivot to an alternative.
+Spotify, of course, doesn't give you that option because //it// is obviously way above piracy and doesn't skirt around paying artists at all. Every piece of audio uploaded must be linked back to someone's bank account because all music on Spotify is ultimately a //business//. This makes the platform inherently exclusionary towards music not composed with the express intent of licensing your music (that's basically everyone who doesn't do music for a living), which probably makes up about 90% of all music ever composed((How do I get to this number? Well, let's take every mainstream song. Mainstream songs are 1 (one) licensed song and then several dozen fan or community remixes. None of these are licensed. Many mainstream songs will have several instrument covers by private people playing the song themselves and uploading it. But the real music treasure trove lies in the non-mainstream: This is composed mostly of fan and community works that are passion projects. In fact, just by how many of us are not full time composers or singers, this makes us several billions of people who could create and then upload music passion projects. Incidentally, these also typically happen to be the best music out there, but that's a [[value judgement]]. Additionally, a lot of music is created in a contractual context but the artists or their customers never bother to license.))((This is particularly prevalent for video game soundtracks, wherein only the big blockbuster high-budget triple AAA titles have their music licensed (most of which then also have countless remixes again). Everything else in terms of video game music is then archived to, of course, YouTube, where audiences of millions can listen to the soundtrack of every game ever created, assuming someone uploaded it. In fact, I am one of those uploaders myself, which is possible on YouTube but a total no-go on Spotify. Hell, I even have the freedom to create custom mixes of the video game music I upload, because I have individual stems and can use them to create new mixes. This freedom is not given on Spotify, making it hostile to anything not expressly dedicated towards making money.)). This music then is //missing// from your platform, which means that if you want to listen to that music anyway, you're going to have to pivot to an alternative.
 So, about Spotify and alternatives. Spotify is designed specifically to discourage multiplatforming. Spotify is, still, a walled garden, so any kind of cross-compatibility with platforms like YouTube or even just audio files on your device((Apparently this is outdated now?)) is an absolute no-go (hmmm, another brand comes to mind which reinforces this idea). To Spotify users, confronted with the goldfish bowl-esque limits of the Spotify catalogue, being presented with a link to another platform is a "hassle". But, that's never their problem, to them it's just you listening to weird, outlandish music. So if you want to share music with a Spotify user, that's not gonna happen unless you use Spotify yourself - and that's the point!
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 ?? Are you insane? Seriously, how rich are you? How rich, irresponsible or just ignorant can you be that you don't mind spending 13€ on this, when there are alternatives that are far more complete, faster and give you full control over the things you have? You wanna support a creator, buy their merch. Yknow what, just buy their fucking album, just not through Spotify?? Like, you can spend ~10,000€ on music over 60 years, I don't mind - just don't do it through Spotify. Find the most direct way to financially support your favorite artists, and use that. Saves you money, removes all the unfairness in Spotify's pro rata model, makes you feel better //and// you get your music for free, all of it. And you also have their merch now. I cannot describe just how lazy and irresponsible going through Spotify is, when, even if you genuinely want to support music development and artists, there are a bazillion ways of doing that.
-It is only corporate propaganda that makes you think that you should submit to a model that gives 30% of your money to Taylor Swift, and that this model is better than listening to music for free (and making sure that you support your favorite artists). If Spotify were free, I would still not use it over being limited and clunky, but at least people wouldn't be morons for using it. At this point it would essentially be a platform like YouTube, just a bit worse ((Spotify has a reduced catalogue, but yes I understand that it is better streamlined towards actual music and does things better than YouTube in terms of keeping its catalogue //clean//(Ie. less duplicates and problems like this.))).
+It is //only// corporate propaganda that makes you think that you should submit to a model that gives 30% of your money to Taylor Swift, and that this model is better than listening to music for free (and making sure that you support your favorite artists). If Spotify were free, I would still not use it over being limited and clunky, but at least people wouldn't be morons for using it. At this point it would essentially be a platform like YouTube, just a bit worse((Spotify has a reduced catalogue, but yes I understand that it is better streamlined towards actual music and does things better than YouTube in terms of keeping its catalogue //clean//<nowiki> (Ie. less duplicates and problems like this.)</nowiki>)).
-Seriously though. How much money do you have? Throughout the month we all try so hard to save money and hurt people in the process. Not buying fairtrade here, getting food delivered there, ordering from Amazon this, not donating to a charity that. But when it comes to music, suddenly it's all "oh, livelihoods depend on this". Huh?? What are you talking about? You really wanna make an impact with your money, then try to not save money on //anything else// - just not music. It just does not make sense how you can accept the full bandwidth of corporate exploitation in Spotify (or the music industry as a whole) and hamstring yourself to a lower quality of service, a minimal, corporate-chosen catalogue and all the limitations and restrictions of the Spotify prison, just so you can think to yourself that you're the right thing by paying 4 bucks to Taylor Swift on a monthly basis. Yeah, Taylor Swift really needs your money.
+Seriously though. How much money do you have? Throughout the month we all try so hard to save money and, in the process,hurt people. Not buying fairtrade here, getting food delivered there, ordering from Amazon this, not donating to a charity that. But when it comes to music, suddenly it's all "oh, livelihoods depend on this". Huh?? What are you talking about? You really wanna make an impact with your money, then try to **not** save money on //anything else//. Buy fairtrade, do whatever. Just don't get weird with music. It just does not make sense how you can accept the full bandwidth of corporate exploitation in Spotify (or the music industry as a whole) and hamstring yourself to a lower quality of service, a minimal, corporate-chosen catalogue and all the limitations and restrictions of the Spotify prison, just so you can think to yourself that you're doing the right thing by paying four bucks to Taylor Swift on a monthly basis.
-Honestly, if your monthly charity budget is limited to 13 bucks (Four of which go to Taylor Swift) use it on literally anything else, please. And then listen to music for free. //Please//.
+Honestly, if your monthly charity budget is limited to 13 bucks (four of which go to Taylor Swift), use it on literally anything else. And then listen to music for free. //Please//.