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--- traits [2025/12/22 11:49] – ultracomfy
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 Personality traits on someone's profile are displayed on a on-confirm basis. If a personality trait is not shown on someone's profile, it could be because I disagree with it or because I'm not confident enough yet to agree with it. For levelled traits, only the lowest level I can confidently agree with is shown.
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+This list of traits is basically a copy from [[Crusader Kings 3]]'s [[https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Traits|list of personality traits]], as it gave me a useful framework through which to analyze personality traits. This is why that list contains a variety of traits that you wouldn't use anymore these days and which I too will probably never use.
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 The general cat assumption is that you are living an independent life with no major committments on either side. And, the cat wants it to stay that way. Y'all can spend time if both sides want it, but the cat doesn't want to be bothered into spending time (The cat still loves you. Maybe.).
-==== Painless ====
-{{page>Templates:Profiles:Painless}}\\
-Painless is a special stupidity condition in which an individual is so devoid of agency and basic, human functioning as to make it impossible for them to engage in (self-)analysis. The most fundamental human guidance system is our pain, which alerts us to something being wrong. If one is painless, they do not ever get this feedback, fail to see that something is wrong and have no impetus to make lasting changes to their behavior. Actual, physical pain might be the only last thing still reaching their brain.
-Until then, this character is unbothered by the negative consequences of their actions, both for others as well as themselves. They will continue to engage in behaviors that would lead to pain; not because it's useful to do, but because it was the first thing some unreflected part of their brain came up with and - without pain - there was never any incentive to change it.
 ==== Dutch ====
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 ==== Depressed ====
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+Depressed characters don't necessarily have the medical condition "Major Depression", but show a generally somber attitude towards their life. They are fundamentally interested in experiencing a worthwhile life, but don't really seem to have gotten there.
 ==== Lunatic ====
 {{page>Templates:Profiles:Lunatic}}\\
+A person who engages, always or in bursts, in uncontrolled, wholly irrational behaviors not motivated by any personal interests, often even against them.
 ==== Fecund ====
 {{page>Templates:Profiles:Fecund}}\\
+A character who can't seem to control their child-getting. May be strategic as part of a larger motivation, lack of self-control, or an illness. Not my position to judge and will be seldomly used. Part of Crusader Kings 3's list of traits and, in there, described solely the physical fertility of a character in the game. For me, that would be impossible to judge in the real world, so it had to be adapted.
 ==== Wheezing ====
 {{page>Templates:Profiles:Wheezing}}\\
+This character has difficulties with breathing comfortably, often creating noise.
 ==== Thin Blood ====
 {{page>Templates:Profiles:Thin Blood}}\\
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+==== Painless ====
+{{page>Templates:Profiles:Painless}}\\
+Painless is a special stupidity condition in which an individual is so devoid of agency and basic, human functioning as to make it impossible for them to engage in (self-)analysis. The most fundamental human guidance system is our pain, which alerts us to something being wrong. If one is painless, they do not ever get this feedback, fail to see that something is wrong and have no impetus to make lasting changes to their behavior. Actual, physical pain might be the only last thing still reaching their brain.
+Until then, this character is unbothered by the negative consequences of their actions, both for others as well as themselves. They will continue to engage in behaviors that would lead to pain; not because it's useful to do, but because it was the first thing some unreflected part of their brain came up with and - without pain - there was never any incentive to change it.
 ==== Stupid Lvl 1 ====
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 ABOUT MISSING PERSONALITY TRAITS\\
 Personality traits on someone's profile are displayed on a on-confirm basis. If a personality trait is not shown on someone's profile, it could be because I disagree with it or because I'm not confident enough yet to agree with it. For levelled traits, only the lowest level I can confidently agree with is shown.
+DISCLAIMER: I am not capable of assessing intelligence levels. Do not listen to what I have to say. If anything, see [[Intelligence]].
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+A stupid person is someone who does not think about things very thoroughly, effectively outsourcing their problems and decision-making to others. By not thinking about things, stupid people create problems that will affect both themselves and the people around them. Without limited sophisticated thought, this person will not be able to experience the full richness of human existence.
+At higher levels of stupidity, the ability to recognize their own failures diminishes. While they still feel pain, they are not capable of self-reflecting, identifying causes or changing behavior to fix problems. Being stupid holds up people who aren't and can force them to do extra work. A stupid person may be unreliable and force people around them to constantly double-check the stupid person's work.
+Conscious, independent and especially critical tought are now almost entirely vestigial. While this person still experiences pain, their behaviors are nearly all pre-planned, pre-learned, "tincan" behaviors, roughly thrown together to make the lowest amount of sense one can get away with (and only if they //have// a pre-canned behavior for any one stimulus). With no sophisticated thought at all, this person is just barely still experiencing "human-ness" (ie. they're human as an //idea//, not as actually living and experiencing like a human).
 ==== Intelligent Lvl 1 ====
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 ABOUT MISSING PERSONALITY TRAITS\\
 Personality traits on someone's profile are displayed on a on-confirm basis. If a personality trait is not shown on someone's profile, it could be because I disagree with it or because I'm not confident enough yet to agree with it. For levelled traits, only the lowest level I can confidently agree with is shown.
+DISCLAIMER: I am not capable of assessing intelligence levels. Do not listen to what I have to say. If anything, see [[Intelligence]].
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+The sad thing about intelligence is that it's impossible to see. It means understanding things - and how could you see if someone understands something without understanding it yourself? And if you understand something yourself, how arrogant would it be of you to call someone intelligent just for knowing things you know?
+So, what I do is looking at it from what I can observe. How much does the normal person understand, and how much does this person understand in comparison to that? Of course I can't know just how much a person actually understands, so I have to extrapolate a lot. More data is better, which is why I'm always very careful with calling someone intelligent.